04 – RIP to Orpheus and Eurydice But We’re Different

In this week’s episode, Lulu and Pie take a dive into two mythology-infused superhero comics: Angela: Queen of Hel by Marguerite Bennett and Midnighter and Apollo by Steve Orlando. Topics include the way these two comics retell the classic myth of Orpheus and Eurydice, LGBTQ+ representation, demons made of ramen, and monopoly-playing supervillains.

You can listen to our fourth episode on Podbean, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, iTunes, and more!

Content warnings: discussions of death, slavery, homophobia, and human experimentation

03 – If Music Be the Food of Love, Gay On

The third episode of Never the Twins Shall Meet is up! You can list on Podbean, Apple Podcasts, iTunes, Spotify, Stitcher, or Google Podcasts.

In this week’s episode, Pie and Lulu dive into three adaptations of Twelfth Night, Shakespeare’s classic comedy: the National Theatre’s 2017 production, the Public Works musical, and the web series Twelfth Grade (Or Whatever). Topics include how these adaptations explore the play’s themes of gender and sexual fluidity, gay pirates, and why it’s probably a bad idea to marry someone just because he looks like your crush.

Content warnings: discussions of homophobia and transphobia

02 – The Great Shadow and Bone Reread

The second episode of Never the Twins Shall Meet is now available and you can listen here

While awaiting the arrival of the Netflix Shadow and Bone adaptation, Pie & Lulu reread the first book in the series. If you want to hear two book nerds revisiting a favorite book from middle school and discussing how how it’s held up and how it hasn’t, as well as our hopes for the TV show (and worries), look no further!

Content warnings: discussion of an emotionally manipulative relationship, mentions of ableism.

Other media mentioned in this episode:

  • These Violent Delights by Micah Nemerever
  • In Other Lands by Sarah Rees Brennan
  • Siege & Storm by Leigh Bardugo
  • Ruin & Rising by Leigh Bardugo
  • Six of Crows by Leigh Bardugo
  • Dorian Gray (2009)
  • Children of Blood and Bone by Tomi Adeyemi
  • The Poppy War by R.F. Kuang
  • Jade City by Fonda Lee
  • Forest of a Thousand Lanterns by Julie C. Dao
  • A Thousand Beginnings and Endings edited by Ellen Oh
  • The Epic Crush of Genie Lo by F.C. Yee

Another show note: the Russian drink Pie references in the world-building analysis is kvas.

01 – Icebreakers and Seal Maidens

Our first episode is up!

In the first episode of Never the Twins Shall Meet, Pie and Lulu introduce themselves and discuss the depictions of selkies–seal shapeshifters from Celtic folklore–in Franny Billingsley’s novel The Folk Keeper and the film Song of the Sea.

Content warnings for this episode include discussions of forced marriage and loss of a parent.

This episode is available to listen on Podbean or Apple Podcasts (which includes iTunes and Overcast). Feel free to drop a review/rating on iTunes if you enjoyed!

Transcripts will hopefully be forthcoming, but will take a little longer.